Batteries on PVO?

With the Australian Federal Govt battery rebate, battery installations here are about to boom. There are now more requests for battery quotes than for solar PV.

Will PVOutput reconsider the addition of channels for handling of battery charge and discharge data?

I recently moved home and recently installed a new solar PV + battery system. My PV output and consumption data is being uploaded to PVO but without charge and discharge data the rest of the data on PVO makes no sense.

I know this was dismissed previously, just wondering if this decision will be revised given the impending battery boom?

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you mean like this?

Thanks but where in the documentation does it refer to or show how battery data can be integrated/uploaded?

Support for standard battery parameters is being investigated.

However, you’ll still need retrieve the battery data and send it to PVOutput e.g. b1 - b5 etc . What battery data fields do you have?

You can see the method here in this post, you might need to modify it to suit your own system if you aren’t using a Powerwall.

I have a range of options, charge and discharge energy accumulation sensors and battery power:

Best would be to upload:

  • Battery charge and discharge energy accumulation values (in kWh), either daily accumulation value or lifetime values (best). These could be uploaded at 5, 10 or 15 minute intervals.

Else I also have:

  • Real time battery power, which is positive or negative and available in instant values, not so good for PVO use really
  • Alternatively split registers for battery charge power and battery discharge power.

There is also state of charge data and a range of other metrics which are less important (average cell voltage data, module temperatures).

Is that in the Extended data?
I already use that so if I add a battery i wouldn’t be able to record it.

Currently penciling in -

  • b1 - Battery charge W (+) / discharge (-)
  • b2 - State of charge (%)
  • b3 - Battery Size / Capacity (Wh)
  • b4 - Lifetime Energy Charged (Wh)
  • b5 - Lifetime Energy Discharged (Wh)
  • b6 - Battery Status (0-4)
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@bankstownbloke - any info on a timeline when this is likely to be implemented?

I’m trying to decide whether it is worth the effort to manually adjust the energy consumed figure to exclude energy from my battery before sending to PVO, so daily balance figures are calculated correctly.

No concrete timeline, but the backend work has been complete to accept battery data (b1-b6).

If you’re using extended data currently for the battery data, this calculation is now supported with Extended Data rules. This was the result of the recent battery functionality support changes -

e.g. v4 = v4 - v7

See https://forum.pvoutput.org/t/extended-data-rules-v1-v4/5345

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This is great news.

I have a couple of questions.

Does that mean we could start sending this data now, but we just won’t see it in the charts and tables?

Is this new data taken into consideration when PVOutput auto-calculates consumption/exports/imports?

Is this the Watts over the interval, and will it be automatically calculated if only b4/b5 are provided (i.e. same as v2/v4 for generation/consumption)?

What do 0-4 represent?

Thanks.